[KyOSS Discuss] Suggested discussion topic: IPv4 address exhaustion and IPv6 adoption

John Hicks johnhicks at gulfbridge.net
Wed Sep 19 12:02:33 EDT 2012

Alex, we meet on the second Wednesday, which would be October 10. Spread 
the word and see you there!

On 09/19/2012 08:50 AM, Alex Hagerman wrote:
> I know this is a bit off topic, but is there a date set for October's 
> meeting? I've got some others interested in coming and was going to 
> let them know when it was. Thanks.
> Alex
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Barton Chittenden 
> <bartonski at gmail.com <mailto:bartonski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Yeah, IPv6 has a pretty strong SEP* field around it. Definitely
>     needs some good advocacy/lobbying.
>     * SEP field -- Somebody Else's Problem field, from Douglas Adams'
>     /Life the Universe and Everything/:
>         An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain
>         doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's
>         problem.... The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind
>         spot. If you look at it directly you won't see it unless you
>         know precisely what it is. Your only hope is to catch it by
>         surprise out of the corner of your eye.
>         The technology involved in making something properly invisible
>         is so mind-bogglingly complex that 999,999,999 times out of a
>         billion it's simpler just to take the thing away and do
>         without it....... The "Somebody Else's Problem field" is much
>         simpler, more effective, and "can be run for over a hundred
>         years on a single torch battery."
>         This is because it relies on people's natural predisposition
>         not to see anything they don't want to, weren't expecting, or
>         can't explain.
>     On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Britt Dodd
>     <brittman914 at gmail.com <mailto:brittman914 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         Yeah hostnames are preferred, because you can seamlessly
>         handle the
>         transition (if you have IP4 and IP6 listeners on your server).
>         IPv4
>         records in DNS are handled by A records, and IPv6 are handled
>         by AAAA
>         records. I'd also be interested in helping to educate others
>         to know
>         and lobby for IPv6.
>         On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Alex Hagerman
>         <alex.hagerman at gmail.com <mailto:alex.hagerman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         > Tomorrow should I be aware of any issues or problems
>         switching from IP to
>         > host if no reason is found for it not to be. Obviously do a
>         controlled test
>         > first and I know in theory it should map no problem but
>         theory rarely seems
>         > to work perfectly when live. Thanks.
>         >
>         > Alex
>         >
>         > On Sep 17, 2012 8:22 PM, "Alex Hagerman"
>         <alex.hagerman at gmail.com <mailto:alex.hagerman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         >>
>         >> True. I'll dig and see why IP was used versus host and let
>         you know. There
>         >> are two databases on cloud servers that I know use IP for
>         user host
>         >> permissions and I think a program or two that link to the
>         databases via IP.
>         >> It was setup by the developer before me so I'll read
>         through the notes and
>         >> code. Its all working so I've been working on new projects
>         more than
>         >> revisiting his code.
>         >>
>         >> Alex
>         >>
>         >> On Sep 17, 2012 7:48 PM, "Alan Blount"
>         <zeroasterisk at gmail.com <mailto:zeroasterisk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         >>>
>         >>> But you can always assign your own hostname and run a DNS
>         or edit your
>         >>> hosts file.
>         >>> _______________________________________________

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