[KyOSS Discuss] Suggested discussion topic: IPv4 address exhaustion and IPv6 adoption

Mike Andrews mandrews at bit0.com
Wed Sep 19 13:43:39 EDT 2012

OK, I missed half this discussion since I only saw the LVL1 posting.  I 
can talk plenty about IPv6 (hopefully less nervously than I did at 
Notacon earlier this year) but I don't think I can make Oct 10th because 
of the Fark+Reddit thing going on in Lexington that day.

On 9/19/2012 12:02 PM, John Hicks wrote:
> Alex, we meet on the second Wednesday, which would be October 10. 
> Spread the word and see you there!
> Thanks,
> John
> On 09/19/2012 08:50 AM, Alex Hagerman wrote:
>> I know this is a bit off topic, but is there a date set for October's 
>> meeting? I've got some others interested in coming and was going to 
>> let them know when it was. Thanks.
>> Alex
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Barton Chittenden 
>> <bartonski at gmail.com <mailto:bartonski at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     Yeah, IPv6 has a pretty strong SEP* field around it. Definitely
>>     needs some good advocacy/lobbying.
>>     * SEP field -- Somebody Else's Problem field, from Douglas Adams'
>>     /Life the Universe and Everything/:
>>         An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain
>>         doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody
>>         else's problem.... The brain just edits it out, it's like a
>>         blind spot. If you look at it directly you won't see it
>>         unless you know precisely what it is. Your only hope is to
>>         catch it by surprise out of the corner of your eye.
>>         The technology involved in making something properly
>>         invisible is so mind-bogglingly complex that 999,999,999
>>         times out of a billion it's simpler just to take the thing
>>         away and do without it....... The "Somebody Else's Problem
>>         field" is much simpler, more effective, and "can be run for
>>         over a hundred years on a single torch battery."
>>         This is because it relies on people's natural predisposition
>>         not to see anything they don't want to, weren't expecting, or
>>         can't explain.
>>     On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Britt Dodd
>>     <brittman914 at gmail.com <mailto:brittman914 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         Yeah hostnames are preferred, because you can seamlessly
>>         handle the
>>         transition (if you have IP4 and IP6 listeners on your
>>         server). IPv4
>>         records in DNS are handled by A records, and IPv6 are handled
>>         by AAAA
>>         records. I'd also be interested in helping to educate others
>>         to know
>>         and lobby for IPv6.
>>         On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Alex Hagerman
>>         <alex.hagerman at gmail.com <mailto:alex.hagerman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         > Tomorrow should I be aware of any issues or problems
>>         switching from IP to
>>         > host if no reason is found for it not to be. Obviously do a
>>         controlled test
>>         > first and I know in theory it should map no problem but
>>         theory rarely seems
>>         > to work perfectly when live. Thanks.
>>         >
>>         > Alex
>>         >
>>         > On Sep 17, 2012 8:22 PM, "Alex Hagerman"
>>         <alex.hagerman at gmail.com <mailto:alex.hagerman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >>
>>         >> True. I'll dig and see why IP was used versus host and let
>>         you know. There
>>         >> are two databases on cloud servers that I know use IP for
>>         user host
>>         >> permissions and I think a program or two that link to the
>>         databases via IP.
>>         >> It was setup by the developer before me so I'll read
>>         through the notes and
>>         >> code. Its all working so I've been working on new projects
>>         more than
>>         >> revisiting his code.
>>         >>
>>         >> Alex
>>         >>
>>         >> On Sep 17, 2012 7:48 PM, "Alan Blount"
>>         <zeroasterisk at gmail.com <mailto:zeroasterisk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >>>
>>         >>> But you can always assign your own hostname and run a DNS
>>         or edit your
>>         >>> hosts file.
>>         >>> _______________________________________________

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