[KyOSS Discuss] Meeting Agenda for this Wednesday's meeting

Chris Rockwell chris at chrisrockwell.com
Tue Oct 8 12:12:33 EDT 2013


I'm definitely interested in a series on this, whether it's at JSLou or
KYOSS.  Can't make KYOSS this month though, so just cover the basics :)


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, alan blount <alan at zeroasterisk.com> wrote:

> If anyone's interested in a series on TDD, I can demo how we're testing at
> work with CakePHP, TravisCI, smoketest, etc...
>
> Also, I have not yet cracked into unit testing / TDD with MeteorJS, but a
> lot of work has been done in those areas and I've been meaning to get into
> it.  Happy to dig into an investigation sometime (JSLou?).
>
> {I've been putting it off waiting on "official" specifications from
> Meteor, but they do have "semi-official" tinytest for packages, which we
> could implement on a simple package I've released which needs some tests}
>
>
> *Background*
>
> if anyone does NOT know what we are talking about with "unit tests" or
> "test driven development" - it's basically an approach for writing code to
> test your code... More work up front, and usually 2x-3x the total lines of
> code; but you end up with something that is a LOT more reliable, readable,
> referenceable, and provable.
>
> If you're just popping out a Wordpress install, don't worry about this.
>
> If you're building anything you care about, you should worry about this...
> even if it's not a big project you want to maintain forever, the habits of
> TDD *will* make you a better programmer and your code will forever be
> easier to upgrade/update/refactor/collaborate on.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> -alan
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Chris Simmons <chrissimmons2 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Wow John! Thanks for the detailed response!  We should be there tomorrow
>> barring any unexpected road blocks on my part.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Chris Simmons
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2013, at 12:32 AM, John Hicks <johnhicks at kyoss.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/07/2013 10:46 AM, Christopher Simmons wrote:
>>
>> I haven't been to one of these meetings in over a year.  I was thinking
>> about coming to this month's meeting and bringing someone who is just
>> starting to get interested in technology.  What do we have on the agenda
>> for this month?  Are there any entry level topics being covered this week?
>>  Anything that a new linux / Open Source user might be able to follow and
>> not get too overwhelmed? Thanks in advance!  I'm looking forward to
>> Wednesday.
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>> We've tossed a couple of ideas around, but so far nothing solid is on the
>> agenda.
>>
>> Ideas discussed:
>>
>>    - Joel Tosi (in Chicago) mentioned "presentations / workshops around
>>    puppet, vagrant, etc.,"  and "the continuous delivery space or devops" He
>>    could come down in the future to lead something, but not this week.
>>    - Chris Rockwell and Paul Yost (from IvyTech) have been in
>>    communication about creating a LiveCD that supports USB wireless. Chris
>>    invited Paul to the meeting to discuss it further.
>>
>> Another idea:
>>
>>    - Alex Bezuska, who is leading the JSLOU Javascript group, has
>>    offered to take on a remake of the front end of the kyoss.org website
>>    as a JSLOU project.
>>    - Craig Garner has pointed out a number of deficiencies in the back
>>    end of the site.
>>    - John Hicks, the perpetrator of the site, has been completely
>>    anal-retentive about keeping it programmed-from-scratch (despite the fact
>>    that some of the code is approaching 10 years old and he hasn't done
>>    diddly-squat lately to improve it).
>>    - Therefore, we might reasonably ask John to explain the architecture
>>    of the site a bit so that we might help him along with back-end
>>    improvements.
>>
>> Other topical topics:
>>
>>    - NSA/privacy/transparency developments
>>    - Cryptography - anybody else signed up for the Stanford course?
>>    (It's week five. I really need to get started on it!!!)
>>     - The apparent movement to Linux for gaming
>>    - New Linux kernel
>>    - hardware developments... seem to be multiple takes out recently for
>>    a PC+Arduino board
>>     - ... what did I miss?
>>
>> Also,
>>
>>    - We could have a live "You can't program Javascript under pressure<http://toys.usvsth3m.com/javascript-under-pressure/>"
>>    competition. Or at least a demonstration of how the site implements
>>    test-driven development (TDD).
>>    - TDD is a subject that's been suggested, but it's probably too late
>>    to expect anyone to prepare something by Wednesday.
>>    - I struggled with Mailman and Postfix this past week getting the
>>    JSLOU mailing list going. I could show what I was struggling with, and some
>>    of you gurus could elucidate on what was probably happening under my
>>    clueless nose.
>>    - We always have an interest in git, vim, etc.
>>     - Barton could give us some more command line gems. Or we could
>>    follow his suggestion for each of us to bring our favorite
>>    little-used-but-invaluable-when-needed commands to share.
>>     - We are overdue talking about networks and network tools.
>>    - We could compare our various work environments for coding.
>>    IDEs/editors/screen setups, etc.  Our work habits, ways to get "in the
>>    zone." ...
>>
>>  Any other ideas, folks?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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