[KyOSS Discuss] Meeting Agenda for this Wednesday's meeting

Alex Bezuska abezuska at gmail.com
Tue Oct 8 12:42:46 EDT 2013


I would love to learn more about TDD, I am a newb in this area.  looking
forward to KYOSS tomorrow


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Chris Rockwell <chris at chrisrockwell.com>wrote:

> I'm definitely interested in a series on this, whether it's at JSLou or
> KYOSS.  Can't make KYOSS this month though, so just cover the basics :)
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, alan blount <alan at zeroasterisk.com>wrote:
>
>> If anyone's interested in a series on TDD, I can demo how we're testing
>> at work with CakePHP, TravisCI, smoketest, etc...
>>
>> Also, I have not yet cracked into unit testing / TDD with MeteorJS, but a
>> lot of work has been done in those areas and I've been meaning to get into
>> it.  Happy to dig into an investigation sometime (JSLou?).
>>
>> {I've been putting it off waiting on "official" specifications from
>> Meteor, but they do have "semi-official" tinytest for packages, which we
>> could implement on a simple package I've released which needs some tests}
>>
>>
>> *Background*
>>
>> if anyone does NOT know what we are talking about with "unit tests" or
>> "test driven development" - it's basically an approach for writing code to
>> test your code... More work up front, and usually 2x-3x the total lines of
>> code; but you end up with something that is a LOT more reliable, readable,
>> referenceable, and provable.
>>
>> If you're just popping out a Wordpress install, don't worry about this.
>>
>> If you're building anything you care about, you should worry about
>> this... even if it's not a big project you want to maintain forever, the
>> habits of TDD *will* make you a better programmer and your code will
>> forever be easier to upgrade/update/refactor/collaborate on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -alan
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Chris Simmons <chrissimmons2 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Wow John! Thanks for the detailed response!  We should be there tomorrow
>>> barring any unexpected road blocks on my part.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Chris Simmons
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2013, at 12:32 AM, John Hicks <johnhicks at kyoss.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/07/2013 10:46 AM, Christopher Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't been to one of these meetings in over a year.  I was thinking
>>> about coming to this month's meeting and bringing someone who is just
>>> starting to get interested in technology.  What do we have on the agenda
>>> for this month?  Are there any entry level topics being covered this week?
>>>  Anything that a new linux / Open Source user might be able to follow and
>>> not get too overwhelmed? Thanks in advance!  I'm looking forward to
>>> Wednesday.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>> We've tossed a couple of ideas around, but so far nothing solid is on
>>> the agenda.
>>>
>>> Ideas discussed:
>>>
>>>    - Joel Tosi (in Chicago) mentioned "presentations / workshops around
>>>    puppet, vagrant, etc.,"  and "the continuous delivery space or devops" He
>>>    could come down in the future to lead something, but not this week.
>>>    - Chris Rockwell and Paul Yost (from IvyTech) have been in
>>>    communication about creating a LiveCD that supports USB wireless. Chris
>>>    invited Paul to the meeting to discuss it further.
>>>
>>> Another idea:
>>>
>>>    - Alex Bezuska, who is leading the JSLOU Javascript group, has
>>>    offered to take on a remake of the front end of the kyoss.orgwebsite as a JSLOU project.
>>>    - Craig Garner has pointed out a number of deficiencies in the back
>>>    end of the site.
>>>    - John Hicks, the perpetrator of the site, has been completely
>>>    anal-retentive about keeping it programmed-from-scratch (despite the fact
>>>    that some of the code is approaching 10 years old and he hasn't done
>>>    diddly-squat lately to improve it).
>>>    - Therefore, we might reasonably ask John to explain the
>>>    architecture of the site a bit so that we might help him along with
>>>    back-end improvements.
>>>
>>> Other topical topics:
>>>
>>>    - NSA/privacy/transparency developments
>>>    - Cryptography - anybody else signed up for the Stanford course?
>>>    (It's week five. I really need to get started on it!!!)
>>>     - The apparent movement to Linux for gaming
>>>    - New Linux kernel
>>>    - hardware developments... seem to be multiple takes out recently
>>>    for a PC+Arduino board
>>>     - ... what did I miss?
>>>
>>> Also,
>>>
>>>    - We could have a live "You can't program Javascript under pressure<http://toys.usvsth3m.com/javascript-under-pressure/>"
>>>    competition. Or at least a demonstration of how the site implements
>>>    test-driven development (TDD).
>>>    - TDD is a subject that's been suggested, but it's probably too late
>>>    to expect anyone to prepare something by Wednesday.
>>>    - I struggled with Mailman and Postfix this past week getting the
>>>    JSLOU mailing list going. I could show what I was struggling with, and some
>>>    of you gurus could elucidate on what was probably happening under my
>>>    clueless nose.
>>>    - We always have an interest in git, vim, etc.
>>>     - Barton could give us some more command line gems. Or we could
>>>    follow his suggestion for each of us to bring our favorite
>>>    little-used-but-invaluable-when-needed commands to share.
>>>     - We are overdue talking about networks and network tools.
>>>    - We could compare our various work environments for coding.
>>>    IDEs/editors/screen setups, etc.  Our work habits, ways to get "in the
>>>    zone." ...
>>>
>>>  Any other ideas, folks?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
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